"TerryK" <terry.92...@gmail.com>, Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:27:03 -0800:
Bill, this place isn't about anyone's differences. They don't matter one
bit. This place, and CP, is about Andy Schlafly, and what he wants. You
keep ignoring the points where you have been proved wrong, and adding
others. That isn't a dialog or collegiality, that's a jack boot. If I had
10 Vice Presidents, one thing I do know is, they darn well better be
supporting me, and my actions. Philip wouldn't and is gone. Anyone who
doesn't publicly or privately support his policies should be as well.
Justine has posted here that it was/is her practice to delete and lock the
pages of those with infinite blocks.
Karajou has too.
We started doing it, because that was what Andy did; clear them, slap up a
"retired" banner and lock them down. It was also the practice of Dean, Geo
and TerryH, if I remember correctly. That is what we have always done.
Hoji's pages were treated the same. You have failed to provide me with any
evidence whatsoever that policy was changed. Just because Jazz didn't post
some parting shot, doesn't save him the same fate, because he is an
administrator at a site dedicated to promoting vandalism, disruption and
trolling at CP. That is why Andy approved his removal. Why don't you email
him and ask him? Brian posting his agreement means nothing to you as well,
I know all about the negotiations' for PJR's return. He, like you Bill,
couldn't even muster the class to support his decisions on who should be an
Admin, and who shouldn't. Your constant chiding and clucking about how
things continued to work without me, is insulting, and highly arrogant. You
were not a part of the other Admin groups we had, but somehow appear to
believe this one works any differently than the others did. It doesn't. I
know because I have read almost all the previous posts. The past history of
this group isn't any better, any worse, than the last one.
As for HelpJazz, in my first go-around as an Admin, I consistently supported
most of his efforts, and had many times emailed Andy asking for him to be
promoted. Several others who were also Admins at that time did as well.
Once he had blocking, I was among those here who suggested many times that
he get night editing and be promoted. Now, according to his own posts at
RatWiki, and emails to others, says I am a liar, and never did support him.
I wonder where those lies he believes come from, Bill? Certainly no one
here. So, he must have made it all up, for pretty obvious reasons. He is
another, like PJR, who simply refuses to accept Andy's wishes.
The bottom line is, Andy approved of Jazz's blocking, and brought me back
for a sound reason, which he posted to all of you here. You don't like
that, fine. But stop arguing forever like PJR.
By the way Bill, since you cannot be bothered to research your "client" in
any meaningful way, I have pasted only some of his most recent comments
about Conservapedia Admin's and Andy, starting with just one of many times
he publicly called Andy a moron, and I even threw in just one of the times
he calls him an idiot. What is below took me exactly 20 minutes, including
the cutting and pasting.
:::Wha?? AKJ, I'm guessing that was a typo or something? Trust me, not only
are they not libertarian, but they marginalize libertarians (and in fact
makes really really really really
ev&oldid=434718 stupid, baseless and painfully obviously wrong attacks]
against them, instead of trying to make allies with them against liberals.
[[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 11:59, 8 December 2008
(EST) (PS: I thought this was funny. Check out the link above, and compare
ev&oldid=560533 this]. Andy liked the statement before it was cited, but as
soon as someone verified that the statement was at least partially true, he
deletes it. What a moron.)
UUUUUUUUUUUGH I just saw that Ed blocked me (FOR A FREAKING WEEK) for
"personal remarks", after I pointed out that he DIDN'T block Bugler for
personal remarks. Seriously, Jessica, leave now. There is no saving the
site, and it's best just to avoid the frustration and complete idocy of the
man. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:19, 13 December
2008 (EST) http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:TokyoRose
Part 4: Andy Shlafly
It has to be said. He may have started the site, but he is not the best
person to be leading the site. He never admits when he's wrong, he ignores
problems and he only supports people who agrees with him. He is an
incredibly illogical person, and refuses to believe anything that goes
against what he thinks he already knows. Worst of all, after creating a site
which is supposed to be from a conservative perspective, he barely
understands the definition of "conservative", refuses to understand that
"conservative" can mean different things in different contexts and
completely doesn't understand the definition of liberal. He doesn't know why
he believes what he does, just that he believes them, and as such, he can't
back them up. Instead of trying to change minds, he has given up on every
single person who doesn't fall 100% in line with him.
What the heck? How can you possibly rectify this
oldid=554228> with this
=554996> ? How do you rectify this
er:Zoidberg> with this
555044&oldid=555042> ? What is going on around here?
::::::Theoretically, the rest of them could self-regulate underneath Andy.
The problem is it's parodists and people trying to destroy the site while
claiming they are for it against known liberals and people who really don't
agree with the party line. CP is such an illogical place, that the people
who are supposed to be ''denouncing'' the site are the ones who are
''defending'' it, and the people with all the real power desire to see the
project fail. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:50, 13
December 2008 (EST)
"Really, I don't think I've ever done anything to deserve getting blocked
(even by CP's stretched standards). I followed the rules rather firmly, and
didn't make much of a stink. I've had some disagreements from time to time,
but more often than not I realized the futility and gave up. (I caught on
early on that Andy wasn't exactly the bastion of logic).
EZ edit button - (EC: I like mine more :) ED POOR YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT
AND A LIAR. Just like TK. Whom you only came back to the site to defend. In
a TK-like style.)
This is the real reason why conservatives love Ann Coulter. Jazz
<http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Jazzman831> 20:12, 23 November 2008
Yup. Penis envy. Conservatives have small dicks. PFoster
<http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/User:PFoster> 20:15, 23 November 2008 (EST)
Sure... that's what I meant. Jazz
<http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Jazzman831> 20:21, 23 November 2008
You are now a sysop. Use your powers wiselyish. There is a help file
somewhere. - <http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/User:3.14159> User
<http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/3.14159> πFor best
results also use RationalWiki moisturizing conditioner 23:30, 9 October 2008
Wow that's... unexpected, to say the least. I wonder if it will last? (And I
wonder if a certain someone on a certain other site will have a fit when he
finds out...) Jazz <http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/User:Jazzman831> Man
<http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Jazzman831> 23:40, 9 October 2008
On a (slightly) related note, what has happened to CPAdmin1 and HenryS. Have
they disappeared from both here and there?--Damo
<http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Damo> Hi 23:00, 9 November 2008
I wish I knew why CP was so slow. Earlier when I was reverting the vandalism
it was physically painful (as I alluded in an edit comment). It took me 6
minutes to undo 3 pages. I can't ask today (surprise, surprise, editing is
off!) but I'll definitely see tomorrow.
Damo: both of those editors have a history of disappearing for long periods