I am taking Rationalwiki internet stalkers to task at aSK. They are not doing very well!

conservative777, Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:50 AM:

I am taking Rationalwiki internet stalkers to task at aSK.  They are
not doing very well!

Please see:

http://www.astorehouseofknowledge.info/User_talk:Ruylopez#Calling_all_cyberstalkers.21

TK, Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:00 PM:

Isn't that the wiki started by Philip Rayment?

--TerryK

Karajou, Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM:

Well, I read it, and I see two obvious things here...

The first is that the RW clowns couldn't admit to the truth if it slapped them in the face.  They still intend to go on doing what they do no matter what.

Second, it looks like PJR doesn't mind at all what they do on his site; he's siding with them.

Since these guys are standing in a sprung bear trap and literally saying "so what" about it, my suggestion is to ignore them completely.  Current events the past year are saying that Conservapedia is surging forward; we're the site that people are looking at and trusting for some decent information.  RW is merely on the outside looking in; what the viewing public is seeing from them is nothing more than a silly rant site by juvenile anarchists.  So much for the "rational" part of them.

TK, Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM:

Philip Rayment was perhaps the greatest parodist effort on behalf the Rats that we have ever endured. They turned him into one, playing on his weaknesses, and used his own vanity to take his place over.

 

Why do I say that?

 

The Rat’s who are really good at what they do, on CP and other websites they dislike, they operate under stealth, gain a good reputation for making sound edits, thousands of them, like BrianCo/Fox.  They are the good socks.  Meanwhile hundreds of bad socks are inserting false information to make us look like fools.  The good socks give them cover, perhaps like PJR, creating a circus arguing with Andy or one of us elsewhere.  When they aren’t doing that, they seek to stir the pot and turn us against each other.

 

No, I don’t really think PJR is a parodist, as we see it usually.  But I do think in his blind adherence to what he believed in, he was convinced by the Rat’s that with his help CP could be made into what Philip wanted it to be.  What that is, I really don’t know, but I do know he wasn’t so much interested in politics, thought it was a distraction from CP’s “real mission”.  So, yes, I thought he was actively cooperating with them, those he deemed “reasonable”.

 

In short Philip Rayment is a liberal appeaser.  His ancestors have a long history of it in the U.K, don’t they?  He suffers under the delusion that if he but uses enough diplomacy, and makes everyone feel welcome, they will eventually see his own POV.  In the process he “gives away the store” as he did at aSK.  Now the Rat’s are really running the place, not him.  And still, from the link Conservative provided, he continues to side with them, appease them.

 

He has forgotten Matthew: 16-26 – “What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?”

 

Thank God that Andy knows so much about politics.  I know CP will never lose its soul to appeasement!

 

--TerryK

 

 

 

 

Temlakos, Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:27 AM:

Add this to it: Philip Rayment is an Aussie. And in Australia the entire
political spectrum is left-shifted by at least an order of magnitude, if
not two, with respect to ours.

He originally had user privileges on CreationWiki. But--and I mention
this only by way of history--Chris Ashcraft simply would not put up with
Philip's constant attitude of insubordination.

Of course, the administrative burden on CreationWiki is
orders-of-magnitude less than that on Conservapedia. Part of that is
because CW is much smaller. The other part is how CW is governed. On CW,
all requests for new accounts must be approved /personally/ by Chris.
(With this exception: if we ever get any Francophile account requests,
they will be my responsibility.) And when someone applies for edit
privileges, he must state on his application whether he believes in
creationism or not--and if he does not, then he may post messages on the
Talk namespaces /only/. And anyone who violates that rule can consider
himself blocked.

CW has very, very few disciplinary problems. Ames Gxxxx managed to get
an application, but he didn't take long to show his true colors, and
after that, not only did Chris block him, but the then-incumbent Web
developer literally erased his account--had to hack into the database
and issue a SQL Delete command, something that MediaWiki does not have.
(We can block an account, but only CPWebmaster can delete one.) And I
recall one person whom I discovered engaging in a spate of vandalism. I
blocked him, reverted his edits, and that was the end of it.

Now most of the people on CW are students at the North Sound Christian
School (the "sound" involved is Puget Sound). Only recently have we
attracted some professional interest. Philip Rayment pretended to be
such a person--but, as I said, Chris Ashcraft sensed that he was not
willing to behave, and blocked him. Nor will you find the history of
their back-and-forth; Chris routinely scrubs User Talk pages, and long
after Philip was gone, CW suffered a server fault that probably
destroyed that correspondence forever--and probably just as well.

I recognize that Andy does not want to install the Confirm Account
extension. But it would be a very simple matter to create a class of
administrator empowered to confirm new users, grant to that user group
the privilege of confirming or denying accounts (in addition to
Bureaucrats), and make some of us members of that group. (Or we could
simply empower the Checkuser group to confirm or refuse accounts, and
that would include our most trusted admins anyway.) That would stop
things like the spate of vandalism that broke out at about 9:00 a.m. EST
today--I forget the user's name just now. He created a user account, and
within seconds was blanking pages. With ConfirmAccount, he'd have to
wait, and we'd even make him fill out an application and convince us
that he's genuine.

Thoughts for the day.

TerryH

Rob Smith, Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:22 PM:

conservative777:   So are you Ruylopez at SK?  I've stayed out of these discussions because of previous interactions with a notorious Wikipedia master strawman sockpuppetier known as RuyLopez (his barnstar for "fighting to keep McCarthyite BS out of Wikipedia" he probably awarded to himself after we had a series of encounters).   I wasn't sure if this was the same Ruy Lopez.

conservative777, Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 5:09 AM:

Rob Smith,

Send me a personal email via conservapedia email which you can do
here: http://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative    I changed my
conservapedia email account so you will need to send it though the
Conservapedia email system.  There is something I wanted to tell
you.

Sincerely,

Conservative